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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 16, 2011 11:57 pm

LOLZ
I know you made those up :p

They're pretty intense accusations though.. and yet, why do I somewhat believe them?

I think some crazy natural disasters are all gonna happen at once, causing Earth to like.. malfunction or whatever....

And then, the Ophiuchus' will save whoever they deem worthy!
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 11:54 am

Hell yeah!! Ophiuchus the 13th unite!! I think I'm starting to like this new zodiac....

*Cough*not really*cough*
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 7:16 pm

Hm, oh well. Who wants to bet within the next 10-20 years another one's gonna pop up? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:17 pm

Like the 13th organization member? We all know what happened to him =>.>= Rolling Eyes

Haha

Screw 10-20.

I say within the next 5 years (granted most of the world leaders haven't killed themselves in a catastrophe in 2012) they will
1) Declare that Ophiuchus was a lie
2) Revoke that statement, and then add a 14th Zodiac
3)Add a 15th one, and say the 15th Zodiac sign is only people who were born on the date of February 29th.

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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:24 pm

2012 is the rebirth of christ 8D
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:26 pm

2012 is a lot of different things according to a lot of different people.

Second coming of Christ, the world's destruction, rebirth of Earth, giant meteor shower, zombie apocalypse, Earth imploding sucking everyone in a giant blackhole....

I've heard it all.
But I won't believe any of it until I see it.

The Earth is changing, that much is clear, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to die in a big massive destructive force....
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:31 pm

Eh, it's an imperfect world but it's the only one we've got. Gotta make do with what we have. The world does what it does, so sometimes ya just gotta roll with it if it won't roll with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:36 pm

some sort of great change...well see wat goes down.
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 10:11 pm

I'm not complaining about the world, but we do gotta roll with it.

I just don't know how I feel about the paranoia surrounding 2012...
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 10:29 pm

Well, indeed mystery shrouds the future, as it has since the beginning of time. So for certain we must cherish our moments today.

As the saying goes, "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called 'the present.'"
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 18, 2011 1:28 am

Ahh Revan..poetic as ever buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 18, 2011 5:46 pm

That's a good one Revan. Mind if I quote that?
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that statement is irrelevant to see'ers O_o
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is it now?
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those who see the future...tomorrow isnt a mystery its a probability. the present is open to interpretation as being actually "present" but yesterday is always the same.
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I've heard you use that before Tri =>.>=

....

... And wow... very well put Heaven =o.o=

*slowly applauds*
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Umm..damn O_O..
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Quote :
that statement is irrelevant to see'ers O_o

Is that supposed to be.. seers?

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those who see the future...tomorrow isnt a mystery its a probability. the present is open to interpretation as being actually "present" but yesterday is always the same.

Well, to the respect of the definition of 'probability' that would still classify as a mystery; probably hints at uncertainty, which hints at the unknown.

And, well, all things are open to interpretation, which means yesterday can also be up to interpretation and may not be always the same. For certain what happened in the past is the same, but definitely how we look at it can be different depending on our todays and tomorrows.
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PostSubject: Re: Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology   Ophiuchus, the ruiner of Astrology - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 12:12 am

very true. but while their definitions are closely tied. they are in truth not the same. mystery and probability share differences that separate and alienate themselves from one another. because while as it may be a similarity. once a dividing factor is brought in it is no longer related but branched out and separated. thus, different.

And as for the past...it is something left up to the interpretation of the ones who write it down...put it down for the rest of time. The yesterday im speaking of is the yesterday that you yourself experienced. not the greater past which is so clearly devoid of solidarity by definition. Because you can never truly know of what you did not see hear taste touch or smell. if you yourself did not experience you can never truly know. it is a fundamental flaw of humanity which leads us to our many mistakes Razz
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... =>.>=

If no one saw it, how can we believe it as truth?...
If many people say something false was true, then it turns into truth, even if it wasn't. It's because we believe it because a mass majority states it's true.

And agreed, that is a flaw of humanity Heaven.

....

On a random note, in my story "Sin" where I have the characters of the Zodiac sisters... Looks like I'll have to add a 13th one, Ophiuchus Razz
=>.>=;;;
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Ah yes, and it is important that we do write yesterday down.

As flawed as we are of course; our reconstructive memory allows us to remember events incorrectly, even if we earnestly believe that's how it happened.
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But anyone can write down something. An entire civilization can be destroyed with a simple stroke of a pen or brush.

We must remember events in the past and only trust words with a grain of salt.
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Well, as right as you are I was referring to something of smaller scale; just the memories of one person.

If that person were to write down everything exactly as they happen, then the past is preserved. Immediately after the event is past, then it's subject to changing.

No one can remember the past perfectly. Every moment makes it fuzzier. Even if we earnestly believe something happened one way, even if we would swear or put our lives on it that an event happened one way or another, we may still be wrong.

If you didn't record it as soon as it happened, who are you to say otherwise?
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The past is subject to change and deterioration, we can only attempt to grasp at the ideas and concepts of the past, but me personally I don't put much thought into the pass I prefer to look to the future.
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I like to look at past, present, and future, as they all build on each other. I can never think of just one or another. I think it's important, however, to think of them in such a way that doesn't hinder you from one or the other.

Besides, all three, in my opinion, are subject to deterioration, corruption, grandiosity, greatness, everything really based on how you live, define, and discover. As I've said the key is how you weave them together.
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